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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 25, 2014 5:24:03 GMT -6
How would you relaunch the UU?
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Post by thecrimson on May 25, 2014 5:43:00 GMT -6
All genders reversed.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 25, 2014 6:11:41 GMT -6
So you would prefer it if the UU was rebooted.
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Post by thecrimson on May 25, 2014 6:17:25 GMT -6
So you would prefer it if the UU was rebooted. No, I was just saying what I'd do if I were rebooting it lol.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 25, 2014 6:30:22 GMT -6
All-New Ultimates three arc series and then into an Ultimate Knights ongoing - I would keep the new New Ultimates team because I like the premise. However, I dislike the decision to call them The Ultimates because they are nothing like them and simply can't make a good global task force with their current set of skills, but I do love that we finally have a recurring street-level team of heroes. It's something I've wanted to see in the UU for years. Bendis' Power Pack were a really interesting group of characters. And there is a lot of potential for the return of Iron Fist, Moonknight or Shang Chi in this new team book. If it was my choice, the All-New Ultimates title wouldn't last for long. It would end after three arcs and then start as an Ultimate Knights ongoing, with the same team as before but with characters like Iron Fist and Moonknight brought in, giving the book a slightly darker street theme. I would like to see a proper Ultimate Luke Cage in this series too. I would bring him in for the last arc (vol. 3) of All-New Ultimates. He and his crew are in dispute with Scorpion and his henchmen. During a street war in Hells Kitchen, Luke Cage's crew are gunned down by Scorpion and his men. Luke only survives because of his bulletproof skin. Luke Cage eventually brings down the Scorpion thanks to the help of the New Ultimates. But Luke Cage murders Scorpion by throwing him off a very tall building, but out of sight of the others, claiming that Scorpion's death was an accident. The New Ultimates believe him, except Spider-Woman (Black Widow III) who suspects he's lying. Luke Cage is then left with two options; take Scorpion's place as the new Kingpin or join Miles' Ultimates. He chooses the latter, and the Ultimate Knights are formed, along with Iron Fist, Moonknight and Black Cat also joining the team. Kitty Pryde would go back to Utopia.
Ultimate Spider-Man - Brian Bendis would continue Miles' solo book. Eddie Brock and the Beetle would be brought back into the series. I want to see the cliffhanger of War of the Symbiotes explained and wrapped up, and with Fialkov bringing back Dr Doom in Ultimate Future Foundation, this is likely a possibility (although I have a feeling Michael Fille's Ultimates might continue the Venom/Beetle storyline, which is fine by me). I would like to see the Sandman again someday too. Just give him a cool two issue arc or something. It doesn't have to be genius, just have Sandman rob a bank and then make it about Miles trying to stop him. I think it would be really good for the book if Bendis started to write much smaller arcs for USM. But I want some big arcs too. I was looking forward to seeing how big the second Ultimate Clone Saga was going to be because the first one was eight issues long, plus one of those issues were double sized. But I'm not sure if a Clone Saga 2 is happening now. I'm looking forward to seeing the Ultimate Scarlet Spider.
Ultimate Future Foundation - I like the sound of what Fialkov has in store for us, so I'd pretty much keep it as it is. It's sort of like the Ultimate Illuminate except it's more about science than anything else, which I'm absolutely thrilled about. And I think the team, given their profound intellect, should work very well, so I think I would keep the team as it is. But I really want a strong emphasis on science in every. single. arc. I want scientific discovery. I want it's stories to be amazing adventures and I want to see visits to the N-Zone and other universes. I really like how the Ultimate FF are an ever-expanding cast.
The Ultimates - All of the main Ultimates members who survive Cataclysm would be on this new Ultimates team but new characters would also be members. Black Panther would return. And so would Captain Britain, Thor and She-Hulk. Iron Man and Falcon would stay on FF. This book would follow the themes of Millar and Hickman's Ultimates but with a fresh shake up of the cast. Some characters have left, some have returned, and some are newcomers. The Ultimates would return to being the most prestigious book in the UU, as it can feature literally any character at any time. It would be fast paced and very action packed. This would also be a good excuse to bring back some of the characters from Fialkov's Howling Commandoes or Millar's Ultimate Avengers, and have some of them join the new team.
Ultimate X-Men - The UU needs an X-book. It's as simple as that. And I think we'll get one in 2016 with the next relaunch (which is very likely considering the latest relaunch sales). But this is what I originally hoped to see from the post-Cataclysm X-Men book. Ultimate X-Men vol.1: Road To Armageddon - Tying up Nick Spencer's mysteries, bringing back the Brotherhood and setting up Apocalypse' reign. This arc would also focus on the fallout of Cataclysm and bringing Utopia back to it's former glory. Ultimate X-Men vol.2: Age of Apocalypse - An eight issue arc that starts with Apocalypse taking over Utopia and enslaving the mutants there. A small band of them escape however, and these rebel escapees eventually rise up and attack Apocalypse and his horsemen, desecrating Apocalypse and his tyranny and freeing Utopia. This new team of X-Men would eventually become the Ultimate version of X-Force. Ultimate X-Men vol.3: Resurrection - A plot involving the long awaited revival of Logan who has lost all his memories and is tasked by The Hand to destroy the the X-Men. (Not one of my best ideas) Ultimate X-Men vol.4: Remnants of Tian - The surviving Eternals of Tian reunite to rebuild their society and destroy Utopia. But before they do that, they must find the whereabouts of their missing leader Zorn. Zorn eventually returns to them and unites them against Utopia. Utopia begin to lose the battle, until Xorn and his Celestials show up and save Utopia. Xorn tries to make Zorn see that this conflict will not solve anything and will only result in more deaths, but Xorn is unable to help Zorn see the error of his ways, and Zorn kills his brother and escapes with his remaining Eternals to fight Utopia another day. The Celestials weep over their fallen leader. Kitty offers the Celestials to stay at Utopia, and they accept.
Ultimate Thor: Rebirth - A five part mini series focusing on Thor post-Cataclysm. It would start with his battle with Galactus in the N-Zone akin to how LotR did it with Gandalf and the Balrog, and then he would return to Earth in a blaze of white light. Thor would then go about helping the world on his own, providing rain for countries with drought and putting a stop to immoral authority. Asgard would return, and so would Modi, with his god powers finally awakened. And Thor must teach him the ways of good.
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Post by Agemoi on Jun 8, 2014 18:25:58 GMT -6
Mr_Monster_MunchMan, youre damn good explaining your ideas! If i wasnt such a scatter brain I'd join in a more substnantive capacity haha Really dig your ideas dude, especially in regards to the X-Men part of the UU. Its been shafted continuously over the past 7-8 years and even now we have no idea whats happening to mutants. But in general, it seems like Marvel just stopped caring about the Ultimate line all together. Its as if Bendis is the only one really putting 110% into his stories, even if the decompression is slightly out of control. I want spencer back to finish that ghost storyline he opened up. How on earth can they just let something like that go?!
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jun 9, 2014 12:50:04 GMT -6
Thanks. But I forgot to add some stuff. My X-Men arcs don't sound very good and I could do with going into more detail about the conflicts and the characters involved. I wanted to talk more about the proper Ultimates team and I forgot to add that I want Cardiac to be Ultimatized soon in USM. I think She-Hulk should be on UFF as one of the new members of it's ever-expanding/changing cast, or she could join the new proper Ultimates team. I'm flexible. I just want to see these characters come back.
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Post by wyokid on Jun 9, 2014 12:58:16 GMT -6
I would bring Jeph Loeb back on Ultimate X-Men and The Ultimates, have Brian Michael Bendis on Ultimate Spider-Man, and have Jason Aaron on Ultimate Avengers.
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