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When I get a chance, I will definitely.

That's a pretty cool observation but I feel it's a little bit shortsighted in not having much perspective of other views.

Let me explain. The genocidal campaign upon the Jewish people came about during the last few years of the WW2. And it really wasn't long before many of the German troops started to feel bad about what they were doing. At this point, it was pretty clear, even though the war was far from over, Germany were never going to win the war. But Hitler's dictatorship became so extreme that all disobedience wasn't tolerated at all. The Germans soon became fully aware of their fascist regime, but troops are always going to follow orders, and Hitler had complete control. It's difficult to tell what might have happened if the war lasted longer, but during the last two years of the war, Germany were rapidly losing faith in their leader. Hitler fell terribly ill throughout the last year of the war. Many of his subordinates feared he was dying. Hitler fell into a mad, vile state of depression and continued to push forward relentlessly. Then the American came in, and it was only a matter of time before Hitler's campaign would collapse and the war would be over.

Nowadays.. I can't really speak for America, but a large portion of the United Kingdom see themselves as the modern equivalent of Nazi's due to what we're doing in the Arab world. And yet we still have games like Call of Duty making the war on the Arab world feel cool, militant and badass.

The Spartans are generally seen as awesome. honourable warriors for defending Greece against the Persians, regardless of the Greek civil war that broke out when Sparta waged war with the peaceful, liberal city of Athens and slaughtered men, women and children within the city without mercy. But still, we love the Spartans.

The Roman Empire is seen as one of humanity's greatest accomplishments. The armies were so vast and superior. And the Roman Empire were much more slaughterous than the Nazi's, the UK and US combined. We hail the a Roman Empire as something that was great, when really it was one of humanity's darkest times, as the Romans attempted to invade and take over pretty much the entire planet.

And of course there's Genghis Kahn's and his army.

And if you pick up any history book, despite how "accurate" recorded history is believed to be, it's actually very bias. When a country is taken over, it's natives slaughtered and it's resources stolen, it's known as "conquering a nation", when really it's thievery to highest extent. But the people who achieve to "conquer" nations aren't known as genocidal mad men or slaughterous thieves. They've all been hailed as "Great Conquerors", even though they just stole a country and slaughtered most of the people in it.

Jason Aaron makes a good point, but it very much feels like he has no understanding of what Empires are, what they have done, and how we perceive them. I don't really see what's so weird about Clone Troops being badass when the Spartans, Romans, Genghis Khan and our slaughter of the Arab world are also largely perceived as badass.

I don't see why that rape joke had to be there. I know Family Guy contains adult themes, but The Simpsons is a family show. However, there have been more adult jokes and humour in The Simpsons (which I also don't like) but I don't see them flat-out saying rape.

Then what would you call it then? It was only until a few years ago when they started introducing adult themes, but they hardly go to the extent that Family Guy does.

I can't remember when adult themes were first introduced but they weren't always there. I'm at least 80 percent sure that's the case.

Dude, when The Simpsons first came out people were freaking out due to how adult based the humor was for a cartoon show. That was a big thing it had to overcome.

I think there might be some confusion as to what's considered an "adult theme".

Are adult relationships considered "adult themes"? Is homosexuality? I wouldn't say so. The themes and stories of The Simpsons are usually something to do with love, crime, civil rights or employment, and I don't consider any of them to be "adult themes" either. I consider it to be mature, family entertainment.

Rape, however. That's an adult theme.


Fast-forward a few replies >> >>... Do we start debating over what's worse, rape or murder? Because murder mystery isn't considered an adult theme, but rape is. And where do you draw the line? At mafia mobsters?

I'm not making fun or anything, but I find that quite strange when tings like Robocop and Terminator were being marketed mostly at children.

Sound. Is that some sort of cryogenic suit?

I don't think it looks good TBH. I think it looks very dated.

Have you played the new MGS? That game is so, so much fun.

Marvel has clearly grabbed Brian Wood's torch and run with it.  They're taking the three best elements of his Star Wars series and breaking each out into its own series.

@trim Robocop and Terminator toys and cartoons were marketed to children. The films themselves was marketed to adults. As for the Batman suit it's what he wore to fight Superman in Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. It's heavy armor.

I was generalising about the whole Robocop franchise.

Besides, a kid doesn't buy an action figure and then not want to see the movie it's based off of. In fact, if they don't see the movie beforehand, they're unlikely to be enticed to buy it. And they certainty don't buy it not knowing who Robocop is. Robocop has always been more a kid's thing than a grown up's. It's the sort of thing you watch when you're in Primary school and then lose interest in when you get to your teens. It's what made it such a cult hit, a cultural value for an entire generation of kids.

Then you have Biker Mice From Mars and all that mutant, cyborg stuff that kids love.

And we watch the same television. What might be perceived as being marketed at adults, isn't always the case. The franchise wouldn't have been half as lucrative otherwise.

Terminator was more for adults, but it was still marketed at children, probably just as much. Remember the amount of times those toys were advertised on television in comparison to the films? Yeah, Robocop was definitely marketed more towards children.

I don't see how that can protect him from being thrown into the sun.

Holy shit. This is test footage of the Deadpool movie that we never got.

Why hasn't this been made yet? This test footage is great, and Ryan Reynolds is the perfect Deadpool!

I took that as you saying the films were. My mistake.

I've never understood why people think Batman could beat Superman. If he did it would be a sucker punch having to use Superman's love of humanity against him which would be so out of character for him. And for Kryptonite all Superman needs to do is fly away and use heat vision to destroy it. 

I was never under the impression The Simpsons was an adult-themed show, but now I can think of some stuff: Itchy and Scratchy and the lesbians kissing in one episode, but in general I don't think it is one.

As for why Batman can beat Superman, I think The Dark Knight Returns made a lot of people think Batman could beat Superman.