Ultimately Off-Topic

Iron man was alright, and had great art. I've actually heard some great things about Doctor Strange, so I will try and get around to buying it.

Okay, so, I mainly read Marvel, mostly Spider-Man, but recently I've taken an interest to Batman and Superman. If anyone could recommend some good Batman and/or Superman graphic novels, I would really appreciate it.

I live in south Mississippi, and alcohol has been explicitly illegal in my town since it was first founded. (Very conservative and religious area, as you can imagine.) The town passed a referendum about a month ago that legalized beer and light wine, and it went into effect two weeks ago. The old folks and the churches are in a panic, protesting and passing around petitions to try and overturn the new law. The local businesses couldn't be happier, because the stuff is selling like Walking Dead trades.

Also, the blueberry beer is freaking delicious.

F***!!! The bible belt, say no more. Needless to say, I'm the on local businesses side.

Girls think my voice is sexy, apparently.

I've been so busy, I haven't had the time to watch all of E3 yet. But I'm getting through it and will provide a review soon.


You got a problem with that?!


I only read the X-Men and FF Season One's. I thought Fantastic Four Season One was good but I wasn't too keen on X-Men Season One. Like Rocky, the reviews for many of the other Season One books turned me away from buying any more.


Yes. You have made a wise choice. I harped on about it quite a bit on the old CBR Off Topic thread.


1. Grant Morrison's Batman & Robin run.
2. Batman: The Killing Joke.
3. Batman: Black Mirror.
4. All Star Superman.
5. And I really like the Earth One books.
6. Superman: Red Son is a fun little comic if you forgive the elementary politics and


That's strange. What would they drink at Holy Communion?

@ jer -

X-Men Season One wasn't a bad book by any means. It just didn't grab me like it wanted it to.

When did George Lucas not keep his own continuity straight? I know of one thing, and that was making Obi Wan a Jedi Master instead of a Jedi Knight like he was in the original trilogy. But other than that, I didn't pick up on any continuity errors/changes.

But yeah, I think J.J could do some amazing things with this trilogy.


In Superman: Red Son I thought Superman's agenda to control with absolute totalitarianism went quite unexplained. People cried out to be fed, but instead of bringing them tonnes of food, he decided to go into politics and wage war with America. I know resources require land, but if you look around, almost every bush, tree and plant doesn't provide any food for us, and there are acres of empty fields, governments paying farmers NOT to work and food prices going up and up all the time. I just thought he did a lot of things that didn't make much sense to me. And I really wanted to know more about why the Russian public begun to hate and rebel against him. I can understand the public wanting to rebel against his totalitarianism, and I can understand the desire to use totalitarianism to control the rebellion, but which came first? How did one cause the other and why? If there were small fractions of people rebelling, I'd imagine it would be because of a lack of wealth, food or security. But Superman could have just turned Russia into a technological garden of Eden with more than enough free resources to go around to everyone, enriching every single person's lives in a profound way.

I also felt it was weird that a President of the US was able to become a dictator.

It was a good book. But many of the political ramifications didn't make much sense to me. Superman had the power to solve all of the world's problems, but instead he took away people's freedom and made people angry through authoritative force. If he wanted people to follow him, to side with him, he should have provided, not taken away. I understand the public fearing him, but there were peaceful ways to settle that.

Most of all, it was Superman's motivations for his extreme political agendas that went very unexplained. The book didn't show Superman attempt to provide humanity with what it needed. It didn't show him trying to solve the real world, technical problems. He could have made everyone's lives better, and for that, the people would have loved him. And I think that's what stands out as the book's defining flaw.

But like I said, it's a great book if you ignore the elementary politics. But even then, Superman's motivations to his agendas didn't relate very well. I know he was being manipulated by Brainiac, but even if I was working with someone who's like five times more knowledgable or intelligent than I am, they're still not going to be able to make me do bad things if I know they're unethical.

But as a condolence, if Millar was writing the book as an ongoing book or as the start of an expanded universe of ongoings, he would have probably explained things a lot better, and not only that, but it would have probably become my most favourite fictional universe within all of comics.

I love Superman: Red Son, I had a blast reading it. But some of the story elements, like the motivations and agendas of some of the characters, were written in a quick way that felt quite blithe to me.

This could be my favourite comic of all time if was a lot, lot longer. It would have been amazing to see more focus on Luthor's Green Lantern corps, it's individual characters receiving the rings, or of what might have happened to them after Superman left Earth. I would like to have seen entire issues dedicated to Batman's perspective too, and it would have been cool to see Lois Lane/Luthor screw over Lex in some way. But the lack of these aspects is at no fault of the book though. These are just ideas I would LOVE to see if the book was an ongoing or a thorough universe in it's own right.

I didn't care for Red Son. Way overrated.

The hype around it

Yeah, sometimes it's like living in Footloose.
Most churches around here are staunchly anti-alcohol, so they use grape juice instead of wine. The churches that use real wine had to buy it elsewhere.
It ain't just girls.

My apologies, it's been a rough weekend.

She hasn't talked to me since and won't answer my messages.

That's because she is in the Hudson.

thecrimson

sorry to hear that dude. Best to keep up the pace and move on to the next. You'll be better off my friend!