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Post by thecrimson on Jul 5, 2014 19:57:10 GMT -6
I had a girlfriend for a day, then broke up with her.
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Post by wyokid on Jul 5, 2014 20:27:12 GMT -6
I had a girlfriend for a day, then broke up with her. I had a dog for five years, then a car broke her. |
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Post by thecrimson on Jul 5, 2014 21:19:30 GMT -6
I had a girlfriend for a day, then broke up with her. I had a dog for five years, then a car broke her. That poor dog  |
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Post by Sage6Paths on Jul 5, 2014 22:09:10 GMT -6
I had a girlfriend for a day, then broke up with her. We need more context. |
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Post by wyokid on Jul 5, 2014 23:09:22 GMT -6
jer hittin' on women like  AAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!
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Post by spock on Jul 6, 2014 7:27:46 GMT -6
I'm going to my parents' cabin for a few days, where I won't have an internet connection, so I won't be able to post on these boards. Try not to discuss anything interesting while I'm gone!
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Post by wyokid on Jul 6, 2014 10:04:54 GMT -6
I'm going to my parents' cabin for a few days, where I won't have an internet connection, so I won't be able to post on these boards. Try not to discuss anything interesting while I'm gone! Alright guys! Now's our chance to finally talk about cold nuclear fusion!  |
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jul 6, 2014 10:18:15 GMT -6
Nah, it's all about Fission.
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Post by thecrimson on Jul 6, 2014 12:07:40 GMT -6
I had a girlfriend for a day, then broke up with her. We need more context. There's a girl I've somewhat liked, I asked her out and she said yes. The next day I realized that isn't what I really wanted like I had thought, so I broke up with her. |
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Post by Wolverine12 on Jul 6, 2014 23:03:09 GMT -6
There's a girl I've somewhat liked, I asked her out and she said yes. The next day I realized that isn't what I really wanted like I had thought, so I broke up with her. I don't think you can break up with some one after a first date....I just think you don't go on a second date lol. |
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Post by jer on Jul 6, 2014 23:11:56 GMT -6
jer hittin' on women like Haha, it's more like 1/3! Of course, if I'm not careful that could be a possibility  Interesting thing, I went to a small con to meet: "ThatGuywithTheGlasses crew" and "TeamFourStar". And I also met this cute girl who ... was about 33 % younger then me actually. She tagged along with me from noon to midnight. I had thought about a relationship with her but just couldn't see it and when I lost her at midnight at the rave party. I was actually glad to be rid of her. ( I should point out that I wasn't trying to lose her but I did) Then it hit 12:30, so I went to the Hentai Hell Panel which is something I've been missing since my friends who go to the big cons always want to leave at 7 pm. I can push maybe an hour extra. I'm apparently, extremely picky. First order of Business: She must be Secular and good luck finding that in the African-American Community or at the very least be tolerant of my intolerance towards religion.  But enough about that, I can't believe no one commented on Munch's statement. ... Um no. The schools don't really question it. We won our independence and we have a Constitution to boot too? Are we (America) still under British rule? I don't understand that statement about schools debating on what happened? There was a big war! The bookish nerd John Adams and the inventive man whore Ben Franklin went over to France to convince them to help fund the American Revolution. Thanks to Ben Franklin (Majority of the credit) France did eventually decide to help America; moreover, thanks again to Ben Franklin he manage to rile the people up against Britain (mainly through lies) With France helping us and public support being anti-british ... the British Government decided to let go of the rebellious colonies. I don't see anything to be confused about? |
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Post by wyokid on Jul 6, 2014 23:34:26 GMT -6
There's a girl I've somewhat liked, I asked her out and she said yes. The next day I realized that isn't what I really wanted like I had thought, so I broke up with her.  |
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jul 7, 2014 6:00:22 GMT -6
First order of Business: She must be Secular and good luck finding that in the African-American Community or at the very least be tolerant of my intolerance towards religion. I know a lot do, but I find it hard to believe that most Black Americans believe in gods and demons. Are you actually saying most of them believe in the Christian God? Why would they choose to believe in him over so many others? Hell, the Christian God even made Jesus White, even though he was born in Israel. And this is a woman we're talking about. Chances are, a woman isn't going to want to devote herself to such a sexist institution. Women don't like stuff like that. I was curious about the students being confused about it. I mean, imagine them learning about it and then being told to research it and do an essay on it. They go home, search Wkipedia or something and find out that it hasn't actually been documented, so kids go back to school arguing over when it took place. Apparently it was signed by different people over the course of a few months. There's a lot of debate over when it was signed and who attended the numerous signings at certain times. And all of that is technically just rumour. There just isn't a lot for a student to research and write about. The student would come back to school almost empty handed, not sure of which source on the Internet is true. I can imagine it being a very, very short paper. That's the American Civil War. That lead to the events of the Declaration of Independence. There's plenty to write about the events preceding the Declaration, just not for the Declaration itself. I've always imagined the smarter students arguing over it and questioning the events. I'm sure they don't all just rely on The Simpsons to fill in the blanks. There's lots you can write about the Civil War, but I find it hard to believe than an essay on the Declaration of Independence being any longer than a short sentence. I would have thought that would be particularly difficult for students to do a paper on. As for whether America is Independent, surely Congress became privatised in 1912 by the Federal Reserve? Edit - It makes me wonder whether the likes of the Rockefeller's and the Rothschild's celebrate when America lost it's independence. And asking Britain for help in invading the Arab world. Some would say that goes against the notion of independence. Then again, political concepts do tend to have very loose definitions. |
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Post by jer on Jul 7, 2014 10:27:41 GMT -6
First order of Business: She must be Secular and good luck finding that in the African-American Community or at the very least be tolerant of my intolerance towards religion. I know a lot do, but I find it hard to believe that most Black Americans believe in gods and demons. Are you actually saying most of them believe in the Christian God? Why would they choose to believe in him over so many others? Hell, the Christian God even made Jesus White, even though he was born in Israel. And this is a woman we're talking about. Chances are, a woman isn't going to want to devote herself to such a sexist institution. Women don't like stuff like that. You clearly aren't a Black American are you? You would be surprised. More to the point, it is actually African American Women that pushes most people to go back to the Church and be "In Love With Jesus". I was curious about the students being confused about it. I mean, imagine them learning about it and then being told to research it and do an essay on it. They go home, search Wkipedia or something and find out that it hasn't actually been documented, so kids go back to school arguing over when it took place. Apparently it was signed by different people over the course of a few months. There's a lot of debate over when it was signed and who attended the numerous signings at certain times. And all of that is technically just rumour. There just isn't a lot for a student to research and write about. The student would come back to school almost empty handed, not sure of which source on the Internet is true. I can imagine it being a very, very short paper. That's the American Civil War. That lead to the events of the Declaration of Independence. There's plenty to write about the events preceding the Declaration, just not for the Declaration itself. I've always imagined the smarter students arguing over it and questioning the events. I'm sure they don't all just rely on The Simpsons to fill in the blanks. There's lots you can write about the Civil War, but I find it hard to believe than an essay on the Declaration of Independence being any longer than a short sentence. I would have thought that would be particularly difficult for students to do a paper on. As for whether America is Independent, surely Congress became privatised in 1912 by the Federal Reserve? Edit - It makes me wonder whether the likes of the Rockefeller's and the Rothschild's celebrate when America lost it's independence. And asking Britain for help in invading the Arab world. Some would say that goes against the notion of independence. Then again, political concepts do tend to have very loose definitions. [/quote] ! I don't know ... so, I just not going to answer.  |
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Post by thecrimson on Jul 7, 2014 10:58:51 GMT -6
I put up a "review" for Sword Art Online II. I put review in quotes because I don't truly think of it as a review, but I'm going to put that in the title to help clear up confusion. Plus I feel like I'll improve as my Anime Corner feature continues.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jul 7, 2014 11:20:01 GMT -6
I just found it quite funny that you made that connection. Do they preach voodoo magic too?  Black women from America have always come across to me as very confident in themselves. Though I don't want to make any stereotypes, they tend to have a strong sense of entitlement. So I just can't imagine them thinking they're inferior to males. But what I really can't wrap my head around is that you're suggesting that there is a demographic of people living in modern society that truly believe there's a giant murderous ghost in the sky that's likely to commit genocide again. I know some people from the Southern States still believe in the Christian God, but most Black people? Women hate stuff like that. I imagine Black women would feel very angry, sitting in a church learning about how inferior they are to men, and from a White Jesus who was born in Israel. The entire concept is an insult to their colour and gender. And I know people can get very protective about things like that in America. |
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Post by wyokid on Jul 7, 2014 12:06:00 GMT -6
This is the 2000th post
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Post by thecrimson on Jul 7, 2014 12:22:26 GMT -6
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Post by jer on Jul 7, 2014 15:17:53 GMT -6
I just found it quite funny that you made that connection. Do they preach voodoo magic too? Depends! If they're Christian, no! ... but they do believe its the devil's work. They acknowledge there inferiority but usually tend to ignore it in practice. So it's a "I say it, but I don't do it kindof thing." And they don't think of God as murderous. Usually there's an excuse for God being murderous. I.E they turn a blind eye to it. I just think it's cognitive dissonance. I'm inferior but I'm not! God committed murder ... but he's all loving? I'm Black! My childhood best friend teaches gospel songs. My cousin takes her kids to church every Thursday and Sunday. To get to work, I pass about three to five churches within a mile. The Secretary, (who is Black) had a child at 15 and said, "It was Jesus's doing that I had a child as a teen." My first girlfriend in college was a Jehovah's Witness ... didn't work out too well ... very devote; African-American of course but she didn't like light-skinned African Americans. I asked my late Uncle about God's miracles and he said, "Just accept it. It's God's work" My mentor (African-American) when I was in graduate school is a Deacon and he preached abstinence; contrasts that with my Caucasian mentor in undergraduate school who was an atheist and he preached about proper condom use and preventing the spread of STDs. At that time, I did believe in God but I was never a big fan of Religion; moreover, everybody told me about Heaven, Hell, Jesus, God and the idea is nice but it never really had a hold on me. .... Good friend from undergraduate told me to go on ChristianMingle.com and find a nice christian woman and settle down which is a good idea until you consider I'm: ProGay Rights ProChoice and HIGHLY in favor of teaching Evilution in schools Plus, I think the Ouija Board is dumb I'm pretty sure that ocean of fish on ChristianMingle.com will become like a tiny lake of zero fishes. He is right though, I should be looking. Jesus knows I'm not getting any younger. |
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jul 7, 2014 19:03:44 GMT -6
I know it shouldn't, but that sounded badass in my mind. So you're looking for the Christian God, but is that really something you want to be true? Let's have a think about the Christian God for a minute, what kind of "person" he is. You say the idea of God is nice, and I've heard other people say the same thing, but what's so nice about him? He's callous enough to drown like a billion innocent children, just because he's desperate for humans to love him. I think that's a horrible thought. Such devotion to an idea like that is likely to make you very paranoid. If I found out the Christian God was real, I'd feel hopeless. It's just an unhealthy belief. There's this all-powerful being who lets innocent children suffer from starvation and malnutrition, and even kills children himself just to make a point. Isn't a "God" supposed be what's called a "divine being"? Let's take a minute to think about what divinity is. The Christian God is very wrathful and vengeful. He gets angry very easily, jealous very easily and is so, so, so abundantly desperate for humans to love him. Gosh, needy much? But that isn't a divine being. Those are basic human emotions. Christians constantly go on about how their god is way too awesome for the small human mind to fathom, because he is just so vastly superior to us in every way. But I know PEOPLE who can overcome those basic emotions of anger and jealousy. I know PEOPLE who can do that. And yet, not even the Christian God can overcome those basic human emotions. And we all know emotion clouds logic. If people can overcome irrational thinking, why can't the Christian God? If he's so divine, why does he let himself get so emotional to the point where he kills everyone just because they don't love him as much as he wants? He's a sociopathic character. The Christian God is basically an angry, jealous dictator, who is completely intolerant of disobedience. He even gets dads to kill their sons because he's jealous that the dad loves his son more than an invisible giant ghost whom he has never seen. This is my point: Surely the creator of the human race would respect the logical, pragmatic connotations of the human mind enough to accept that people aren't likely to believe in something that doesn't make logical sense? The human mind is a wonderful tool at rationalising information. And Faith is basically a mechanism for ignoring that. It is Faith that is the ultimate stagnation in all cognitive thinking. I respect my mind. And I respect it enough not to blindly follow something without a shred of evidence. Wouldn't you expect the creator of the human mind to have respect for pragmatic thinking? To accept the process of actual reasoning? Preaching the importance of Faith is basically a sure way of keeping people stupid. As the creator of the human mind, you would want the human mind to reach it's potential, to use cognitive reasoning as a tool for understanding. Not ignore the logical connotations in your mind because "your Faith is strong". Now, I would have thought the God of all mankind would be more tolerant toward his own creation. If you designed a robot, and it made a mistake, would you punish the robot? No. Of course not. Because you made the robot the way it is, so it is your responsibility. You don't create something flawed, give it emotions of frustration and misery and then punish it for it's mistakes. That's a cruel, sick game. And it is completely sociopathic for anyone to have such a profound sense of entitlement as to create something and then punish it. It's egotistical madness. If you design something that's bad, that's your fault, not anybody else's. See, I believe that with great power comes great responsibility. If you have the power to prevent bad things from happening, then it is your responsibility to do that. How can anyone sit on their thrown all day and let a child cry out in agony and not do something about it? The Christian God is well on par for being the cruelest character ever created in fiction. Are you really going to be all that pleased knowing that something like that exists? I think the idea is horrible. The world we live in is horrible. More horrible than most people realise. And it would be even more horrible knowing that a supreme power is letting it happen. Choosing to let bad things happen. In many ways, I respect the Council of Constantine for writing the Bible. They depicted a benevolent overlord better than anyone else ever had. They stereotyped the mind of a powerful ruler, exaggerated it, and came up with one hell of a sociopathic character as the main focus of their story. They created a villain who doesn't see himself as a villain, a character conflicted with negative emotions, who creates all life and then callously murders most of it, makes people suffer, simply because he's unhappy with what he's created and needs so desperately for everyone to love him. That's not what I would call a divine being. Depending on your beliefs I suppose "he" isn't the right word, but you get my drift. So that's the Christian God for you. I often wonder whether most Christians have actually read the Holy Bible because I'm always thinking 'Have you even read the Bible? Do you realise who your choosing to worship?' I don't think I will ever understand this. I'm completely bewildered as to how anyone in this day and age could read the Old Testament and think 'Yeah, this is who I'm going to worship'. I mean, let's say he is real. Why would you want to follow him if he was? It seems so strange to me that almost every Black woman in America would decide this is the "man" for them, that they would choose to side with him and his teachings. I personally like the message the comic book series Preacher (have you read that at all?) left us with. The human race has outgrown God. We don't need him anymore. That's the Christian God, as read in the Holy Bible. It's not my interpretation. That's literally how the character is in the Bible. I know many say that the idea of God has changed now, and the Bible should be taken with a grain of salt. It is of my understanding that a lot of Christians don't believe in the Bible anymore. And that God is simply your conscience. But disregarding the character in the Bible, and instead considering the true, pure idea of the creator of the human race, please refer to my "imagine you made a robot with human emotions" paragraph. It's a cruel concept, creating something and then punishing what you've created for it not working how you want it to. It's a sociopathic complex for anyone, even they are a god, to do that. People really need to question what they see as a divine being. I'm a comic book guy. With great power comes great responsibility. At the end of the day, however way you look at it, the idea of a supreme ruler creating us just isn't relevant to moral justification. Our understanding is better now. If you have the power to stop people from hurting, then it's your responsibility to do that. A kind man doesn't let the F'd up things in this world happen. I know you don't believe in God, I saw your post about how your intolerant of religion. But you say you're looking for the Christian God, which is a discovery that would personally make me very paranoid. And I wanted to explain how frightening it would be if he existed. * Another point I want to make is the idea of living in heaven forever and ever. Do you think you'd even want to talk to anybody after a thousand years? How about after 5000 years? Would you care at all about what anyone had to say? There's a very good reason why life is limited. Boredom. But saying that, I actually do believe in some existence of an after life. You're a physicist, Jer. And this is why I really want to talk to you about this. I'll explain in my next post.  |
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jul 7, 2014 19:04:23 GMT -6
Now that we've got that out the way, I wanted to share my experience with religion. My primary school taught Christianity, and I was very quick to want to learn more. I believed in God when I was little, but the idea of it frightened me quite a lot too, especially whenever I considered Hell. I had quite an overactive imagination - still do - and I remember praying to God and talking to him in my thoughts all the time when I was very, very young. But it confused me, death was spoken about a lot in my morning assembly, and I soon became very discomforted by the idea of God. Then I watched The Lion King and it changed my life completely. I was always fascinated by science and nature, and what I Iearnt about the circle of life in The Lion King was like what religious folk would call a spiritual awakening in me. Suddenly, life and death had a purpose, there was system, a life cycle to the passing of energy.
One of reasons I believe in a possible afterlife is not because the idea is something I want to believe in, but because it makes sense to me. Energy doesn't die, it just gets passed on. Some people can meditate until they have an outer body experience (something I have actually had and I can discuss that with you if you want me too) which is basically your consciousness left your body. People in the far east are very good at this, often traveling miles whilst staying in the same place. This has never been proven. But I was able to do it once for a very short time, so I know it's possible. So if the consciousness leaves the body, where does it go when the body dies? It must go somewhere. Energy doesn't really die, it just gets transferred and transmogrified.
If you had super strength like the Thing from Fantastic Four, but none of his superhuman durability, if you punched a wall with all your strength, your arm is likely to explode. But there are people who can slice and punch through solid brick and stone, and not break any bones. They do this by mentally channeling their body's energy through into their arm and hand. And this has been proven. It's often referred to as one's Chi. Our body's energy.
All evidence suggests that your chi and consciousness are the same thing. Scientist refer to it as your consciousness and religious folk call it your soul or your spirit.
It's beautiful because it makes sense. And when it makes sense, it truly is wonderful. Forget looking for a god or for one to find you. Love and learn about what he has apparently created and then you'll find something much more beautiful. This Earth provides everything we need. And it works within ecological systems. These systems are called sciences, and they're the best kind of understanding we have.
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Post by jer on Jul 7, 2014 21:55:42 GMT -6
So you're looking for the Christian God,  NO!!!! NOOO!!! NNOOO!!!! STOP RIGHT THERE! YOU ASKED A QUESTION, I WAS ATTEMPTING TO ANSWER IT! I have no idea how you got that idea but you're wrong. I'm an atheist. I live in a community of people who love the idea of a christian God and I was trying to convey that idea. I use to think it would be easier if I was a Jesus loving African American just like all my other friends and people I knew. I have sense grown comfortable with the idea of No God but it's not something I can just come clean about because of the culture.  OH! ... I meant getting back into the dating scene. I haven't dated anyone in awhile. A friend of mine suggested I go on ChristianMingle.com and I was commenting it would be a good idea to look for a like minded mate, but not somebody who's Christian. ... depends? Is new stuff happening to them? Are things changing or are they going static; because if it's the later then yes, I agree things will get boring but if things change and you're allowed to evolve. Then NO! Lets use the base line of 10,000 hours to become an expert at something ... Think about a person having infinite amount of time to explore academic fields, skills, languages: Change! Man! If you're with someone who's fun and is willing to grow, I can guarantee you I would want a million years with that person. But there's the trick, someone who is willing to grow with you. |
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Post by thecrimson on Jul 7, 2014 22:33:41 GMT -6
>Is Christian
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Post by wyokid on Jul 7, 2014 23:01:04 GMT -6
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Post by jer on Jul 8, 2014 8:44:02 GMT -6
>Is Christian >Sits here uncomfortably  So, about that girl ... did you break up with her or did you go on one more date with her? |
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Post by thecrimson on Jul 8, 2014 15:33:39 GMT -6
>Is Christian >Sits here uncomfortably So, about that girl ... did you break up with her or did you go on one more date with her? Broke up. |
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jul 8, 2014 17:01:35 GMT -6
So you're looking for the Christian God, NO!!!! NOOO!!! NNOOO!!!! STOP RIGHT THERE! YOU ASKED A QUESTION, I WAS ATTEMPTING TO ANSWER IT! I have no idea how you got that idea but you're wrong. I'm an atheist. I live in a community of people who love the idea of a christian God and I was trying to convey that idea. I use to think it would be easier if I was a Jesus loving African American just like all my other friends and people I knew. I have sense grown comfortable with the idea of No God but it's not something I can just come clean about because of the culture. OH! ... I meant getting back into the dating scene. I haven't dated anyone in awhile. A friend of mine suggested I go on ChristianMingle.com and I was commenting it would be a good idea to look for a like minded mate, but not somebody who's Christian. ... depends? Is new stuff happening to them? Are things changing or are they going static; because if it's the later then yes, I agree things will get boring but if things change and you're allowed to evolve. Then NO! Lets use the base line of 10,000 hours to become an expert at something ... Think about a person having infinite amount of time to explore academic fields, skills, languages: Change! Man! If you're with someone who's fun and is willing to grow, I can guarantee you I would want a million years with that person. But there's the trick, someone who is willing to grow with you. I just wanted to run the idea through with you because I wondered if you had ever considered doing funerals. I don't want a priest telling my children and grandchildren about scary gods and demons. Instead, I want a physicist to explain the passing of my energy, of my consciousness. About starting a whole new journey on the spiritual plane. Because THAT is beautiful. I feel very strongly that priests aren't qualified to preach about life and death, whereas physicists are. They're practical, pragmatic aids to the fragile process of bereavement, offering credible answers, rather than taking a leap of faith with fantasy and mythological values that are nearly 2000 years old. Why do we as a society choose to remain stagnant within establishment and not emerge and develop along with our understanding? I don't see why in the 21st Century we still have theistic studies applied to something that is natural. Life, death and the bereavement process are what EVERYONE goes through, something we ALL experience at some point. So it seems so strange, so impractical and so incredibly bias to use theistic values for funerals when only a small percentage of the world's population are religious followers. Think about it. You die. There's a funeral in which all your friends and family attend. And then the funeral's host starts talking about a god. It's a dangerous game to play that could hurt a lot of feelings that are fragile enough already than to have a man whom you have never met preach about the religion he follows. To anyone who is reading this, why not ask a physicist to speak at your funeral? You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy is created in the universe and none is destroyed. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid the energies of the cosmos.. you gave as good as you got. And at one point, you may hope that the physicist will step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell her that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off you like children, their ways forever changed by you. And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her eyes, that those photons created within her constellations of electromagnetically charged neuronal energy will go on forever. Life and death is a part of all our lives, and I by now we should be able to die in peace without a religious follower preaching your family about the god he represents. Death is a fragile subject, and priests and vicars alike should know better than to preach their hocus-pocus mumbo-jumbo about a supreme creator who chooses to punish what he designed as though he actually exists. I'm guessing less than (let's say) 4% of the world's human population are religious. And yet traditionally, we still stick to our societal establishments that constantly stagnate and corrupt our learning development. If only 4% (I'm guessing) of the entire population of Earth are religious, surely it's long overdue we took a different approach? Transferring energies is a study of Physics. Not theism. Gods and demons have no place in the pragmatic bereavement of death. We should think more practically about it. It's much more comforting to believe in a law of science than theistic values, because it can be taught to anyone and is something anyone can understand because it's practical, and there are no supremely powerful, giant, invisible beings to believe in. And yet, you probably know more about this than me. As a physicist, you have useful knowledge to share with every single individual on this planet. And I'm jealous that you have that gift. More importantly, you're qualified. I'm not. Which is why I really wanted to engage this topic with you. I think it's truly, truly beautiful that we have concepts that we can finally understand in a practical way without having to imagine superpowered characters that are invisible to us. It's life and death. A fragile topic that should be approached cautiously and with much greater consideration. |
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on Jul 8, 2014 17:06:03 GMT -6
>Is Christian >Sits here uncomfortably (edited) It's cool to choose to be a Christian. I love all kinds of mythology. And I LOVE In Hebrid Seas, my favourite hymn. It's so beautiful. O' Holy Night is nice too. [The Book of] Revelation was an awesome read. And "The Tyranny of Evil Men" speech that Juels, Samuel L. Jackson's character explains and interprets in a variety of ways in the final scene of Pulp Fiction is the best written scene I have ever watched. I think Michael is badass as the hand of god and I sympathise with Satan and the angels that sided with him. |
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Post by wyokid on Jul 8, 2014 19:50:15 GMT -6
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Post by jer on Jul 9, 2014 9:17:27 GMT -6
I just wanted to run the idea through with you because I wondered if you had ever considered doing funerals. I don't want a priest telling my children and grandchildren about scary gods and demons. Instead, I want a physicist to explain the passing of my energy, of my consciousness. About starting a whole new journey on the spiritual plane. Because THAT is beautiful. I feel very strongly that priests aren't qualified to preach about life and death, whereas physicists are. They're practical, pragmatic aids to the fragile process of bereavement, offering credible answers, rather than taking a leap of faith with fantasy and mythological values that are nearly 2000 years old. Why do we as a society choose to remain stagnant within establishment and not emerge and develop along with our understanding? I don't see why in the 21st Century we still have theistic studies applied to something that is natural. Life, death and the bereavement process are what EVERYONE goes through, something we ALL experience at some point. So it seems so strange, so impractical and so incredibly bias to use theistic values for funerals when only a small percentage of the world's population are religious followers. Think about it. You die. There's a funeral in which all your friends and family attend. And then the funeral's host starts talking about a god. It's a dangerous game to play that could hurt a lot of feelings that are fragile enough already than to have a man whom you have never met preach about the religion he follows. To anyone who is reading this, why not ask a physicist to speak at your funeral? You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy is created in the universe and none is destroyed. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid the energies of the cosmos.. you gave as good as you got. And at one point, you may hope that the physicist will step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell her that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off you like children, their ways forever changed by you. And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her eyes, that those photons created within her constellations of electromagnetically charged neuronal energy will go on forever. Life and death is a part of all our lives, and I by now we should be able to die in peace without a religious follower preaching your family about the god he represents. Death is a fragile subject, and priests and vicars alike should know better than to preach their hocus-pocus mumbo-jumbo about a supreme creator who chooses to punish what he designed as though he actually exists. I'm guessing less than (let's say) 4% of the world's human population are religious. And yet traditionally, we still stick to our societal establishments that constantly stagnate and corrupt our learning development. If only 4% (I'm guessing) of the entire population of Earth are religious, surely it's long overdue we took a different approach? Transferring energies is a study of Physics. Not theism. Gods and demons have no place in the pragmatic bereavement of death. We should think more practically about it. It's much more comforting to believe in a law of science than theistic values, because it can be taught to anyone and is something anyone can understand because it's practical, and there are no supremely powerful, giant, invisible beings to believe in. And yet, you probably know more about this than me. As a physicist, you have useful knowledge to share with every single individual on this planet. And I'm jealous that you have that gift. More importantly, you're qualified. I'm not. Which is why I really wanted to engage this topic with you. I think it's truly, truly beautiful that we have concepts that we can finally understand in a practical way without having to imagine superpowered characters that are invisible to us. It's life and death. A fragile topic that should be approached cautiously and with much greater consideration. No I haven't. For most of my life, I was religious or at the very least tried to be. I'm kindof thinking about that now and it seems a little odd to me to have a science guy speak at a funeral instead of a preacher. BUT!!!! What you say makes a lot of sense. I've thought a lot about marriage, the kindof woman that I would like to spend the rest of my life with, how I would want my kids to be raised: what would be negotiable and what would absolutely be NON-negotiable in raising them, about what makes people happy and how to make myself happy ... am I spending too much time studying, too much time goofing off. My Financial Status, Retirement and everything about life and how this world ticks and of course Religion. I have both a Bible and a Qu'ran at home. But I never really thought about death and funerals. I'm not even sure there's an option for a secular funeral. But, yeah I think I like your idea much better then having a priest do a funeral. While I'm sure I can talk about the science, I don't know if I would be the most comforting guy (I can be abit, aloof) A priest on the other hand is trained to comfort you doing those moments. Interesting discussion. |
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NO!!!! NOOO!!! NNOOO!!!! STOP RIGHT THERE! YOU ASKED A QUESTION, I WAS ATTEMPTING TO ANSWER IT! I have no idea how you got that idea but you're wrong. I'm an atheist. I live in a community of people who love the idea of a christian God and I was trying to convey that idea. I use to think it would be easier if I was a Jesus loving African American just like all my other friends and people I knew. I have sense grown comfortable with the idea of No God but it's not something I can just come clean about because of the culture. 
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