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Post by wyokid on May 16, 2014 18:58:16 GMT -6
The Terminator reboot has Matt Smith in it, so you can bet your ass I'll be seeing that one. I'm no longer a fan of the continuity but I'm sure I'll enjoy it regardless. I'll always enjoy the Terminator films, and I'm sure this one will be enjoyable too, but my true love for the franchise has been slaughtered (Lol. How dramatic I can be when articulating my words). The third one was good but it felt like such a forced continuation of the continuity. And the fourth one was such a streaming pile, it destroyed my love for the continuity completely. I'm expecting the fifth film, Genesis - similarly to the other 21st century sequels - to not be comparable to the first two films. But I'm sure Genesis will still be highly enjoyable for several reasons. Arnold Schwarzenegger (who I can't help but love) is BACK just like he always says he will be. There's going to be some great Terminator action and I'll be looking out for any fan-pleasing continuity references, which will be fun. I regard the first two Terminators as the true franchise and I enjoy them better believing the story ends with Terminator 2, but I'm sure Genesis will be good fun regardless. In my mind, the newer movies are their own alternate continuity, and I enjoy them a lot more with that in mind. I won't be seeing Genesis in the cinema but I'll check it out when I get the chance. Should be fun. Jurassic World is going to be a sight to behold. It's going to look amazing. Just wait. Our minds will be well and truly blown when the first trailer comes out. Just think, it's been more than fifteen years since the first one came out. And I think this movie is going to try and rival that cinematic leap. Jurassic World. It's going to look insane! Not with CGI dinosaurs it's not.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 16, 2014 19:35:46 GMT -6
wyokidWhen has Jurassic Park not used CGI dinosaurs?
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Post by wyokid on May 16, 2014 22:13:21 GMT -6
The first film used very little which is why it still looks incredibly.
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Post by Sage6Paths on May 16, 2014 22:58:36 GMT -6
GOTG Teaser.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 16, 2014 23:53:14 GMT -6
The first film used very little which is why it still looks incredibly. No, most of that was CGI.
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Post by Sinx on May 17, 2014 12:32:19 GMT -6
The first film used very little which is why it still looks incredibly. No, most of that was CGI. I was always under the impression that it was a lot of animatronics. There was very little CGI when that movie came out and the effects would look a lot worse if they used them.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 17, 2014 14:02:32 GMT -6
No, most of that was CGI. I was always under the impression that it was a lot of animatronics. There was very little CGI when that movie came out and the effects would look a lot worse if they used them. They mostly motion captured the mechanical puppets with mo-cap balls. But the majority of all the dinosaurs shown in that film were completely CGI animated. But there were also instances where only puppets were used. The two instances where velociraptors were being eaten by a T-Rex (in the store and on the field) were almost just CGI. But then there's the claw tapping in the kitchen, poorly triceratops and Diplodocus head in the trees which were nothing but puppets. The double T-Rex conflict that kicked off the action was also mostly mechanical. I'd say it was half and half. But there were a LOT of moments that were CGI. Sometimes, there were entire fields of dinosaurs that were all computer animated, often even during close up shots. You know that scene on the field plane where the boy stands up and goes "look at all that blood" and the T-Rex is chomping at those velociraptors running past? That for example was completely CGI. Every Jurassic Park THS came with a "making of" documentary. It's longer than the actual film.
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Post by wyokid on May 17, 2014 15:06:42 GMT -6
No, most of that was CGI. I was always under the impression that it was a lot of animatronics. There was very little CGI when that movie came out and the effects would look a lot worse if they used them. This is correct. Look at how awful Godzilla (1998) looks now. That was completely CGI. Long tracking and far away dinosaurs were CGI but most of the stuff up close (the memorable stuff) was animatronics and puppets with CGI touch ups.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 17, 2014 15:37:46 GMT -6
I was always under the impression that it was a lot of animatronics. There was very little CGI when that movie came out and the effects would look a lot worse if they used them. This is correct. Look at how awful Godzilla (1998) looks now. That was completely CGI. Long tracking and far away dinosaurs were CGI but most of the stuff up close (the memorable stuff) was animatronics and puppets with CGI touch ups. Hardly comparable. The 1998 Godzilla at the time was just your standard 90's CGI which by today's standards looks quite shit. But Jurassic Park was a groundbreaking achievement in computer animation. Audiences couldn't believe how it was even possible. The first Jurassic Park was filled with CGI. Why do you doubt me so? Check out this T-Rex! Full CGI! Nothing but CGI here. I was in awe when I first saw that T-Rex jump out from the bushes.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 17, 2014 15:51:39 GMT -6
Here's another example, except this is what I was talking about how the mechanical creatures were often CGI animated, using motion capture via the mo-cap balls. You guys know what I'm talking about right?
So like I said...
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Post by wyokid on May 17, 2014 19:29:00 GMT -6
Lol @ Sony's Spider-Man plans. They got steamrolled by Neighbors and now Godzilla and then X-Men.
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Post by thecrimson on May 17, 2014 19:53:08 GMT -6
Lol @ Sony's Spider-Man plans. They got steamrolled by Neighbors and now Godzilla and then X-Men. So? I'm still excited for their plans, because I don't think I can wait that long for certain villains to appear if a reboot happens (which it would if Marvel got the movie rights back).
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Post by Agemoi on May 17, 2014 20:19:17 GMT -6
Lol @ Sony's Spider-Man plans. They got steamrolled by Neighbors and now Godzilla and then X-Men. So? I'm still excited for their plans, because I don't think I can wait that long for certain villains to appear if a reboot happens (which it would if Marvel got the movie rights back). I'm excited too, but I've unfortunately stopped expecting anything to be "good." I still stand that the ASM2 had the best Spider-Man/Peter Parker content with excellent character interactions, and fantastic spidey sequences. But the narrative is so broken, and the tone completely uneven. Its heartbreaking to see a film fall apart in the editing room, because in every scene you can just tell everyone is giving it their all and loves it. Hopefully they tighten up in the future.
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Post by wyokid on May 17, 2014 20:24:50 GMT -6
So? I'm still excited for their plans, because I don't think I can wait that long for certain villains to appear if a reboot happens (which it would if Marvel got the movie rights back). I'm excited too, but I've unfortunately stopped expecting anything to be "good." I still stand that the ASM2 had the best Spider-Man/Peter Parker content with excellent character interactions, and fantastic spidey sequences. But the narrative is so broken, and the tone completely uneven. Its heartbreaking to see a film fall apart in the editing room, because in every scene you can just tell everyone is giving it their all and loves it. Hopefully they tighten up in the future. Dennis Leary looked annoyed that he was brought in.
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Post by thecrimson on May 17, 2014 20:51:41 GMT -6
So? I'm still excited for their plans, because I don't think I can wait that long for certain villains to appear if a reboot happens (which it would if Marvel got the movie rights back). I'm excited too, but I've unfortunately stopped expecting anything to be "good." I still stand that the ASM2 had the best Spider-Man/Peter Parker content with excellent character interactions, and fantastic spidey sequences. But the narrative is so broken, and the tone completely uneven. Its heartbreaking to see a film fall apart in the editing room, because in every scene you can just tell everyone is giving it their all and loves it. Hopefully they tighten up in the future. I gotta disagree.
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Post by Sage6Paths on May 17, 2014 20:54:21 GMT -6
So anyone else watch Godzilla? I watched on thursday. Good movie but not a lot of Godzilla.
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Post by wyokid on May 17, 2014 20:58:39 GMT -6
If I remember it correctly the original film didn't have too much Godzilla either. I heard the humans are typical monster movie humans, this true?
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Post by thecrimson on May 17, 2014 21:00:17 GMT -6
So anyone else watch Godzilla? I watched on thursday. Good movie but not a lot of Godzilla. No money to see it.
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Post by jer on May 17, 2014 21:07:17 GMT -6
Actually, it would be more in character for Batman to study Superman for any weaknesses. I think Wonder Woman is also in this movie (minor cameo role?) and maybe a few other members of the Justice League might make a small appearance in this movie. So it would make sense that Batman would put those guys together and battle the man of steel. Moreover, does anyone know if Lex is going to be in this movie? Batman vs Superman isn't really a physical fight but more of a mental fight.
Now people say that Batman is smarter, but really he's just a better planner. Superman has access to scientific knowledge from Krypton! AND YES, HE UNDERSTANDS IT! (at least in the comic book universe) he still has Russell Crowe in the movies, right? That's a lot of characters to address in a single movie. The narrative would be very difficult to put together, especially considering the inevitable villain that will show up at some point in the movie. See my reply to Agemoi on how difficult it will be to address all the character development. Whom is a great actor whatever role he plays. But he was anything but a badass Batman. Disregarding the dance off, I still don't see how Batman wouldn't be overlooked in comparison to how awesome Superman's abilities are. Batman needs to be physically badass too. He's probably going to be the main reason most fans will go to watch the movie. There's also the final fight to consider. Batman can't just be the guy who comes up with the plan. The GA would not like that. He needs to be seen as physically helpful to Superman without Superman outshining him so prominently. Yes, that would be the wisest approach to writing this movie. But I don't think it would be enough. Like when the main villain eventually surfaces, Batman's going to need to be more than just 'the man with the plan'. His physical portrayal will undoubtably be running alongside Superman's. With this happening, will it be possible for fans to come away from the movie thinking Batman is badass when Superman is flying around defeating a hundred times as many enemies as Batman in less than half the time? Where the characters were fully established in their own titles before coming together for a team up (this won't be Nolan's Batman) and where Loki had already been established as a major threat in Thor. This is a monumental picture to pull off, and it would go much smoother if these characters were fully developed first before being clashed together. It's going to be difficult handling these two very different characters as well as the story development surrounding Snyder's MoS cast. I know most of those characters can go ignored, but is that really a wise decision following the set-up left at the end of MoS? That's the thing. I don't want Batman to be super-powered. I don't want to see him destroy multiple Doomsdays in combat or see him having his kevlar mask remain intact after being hit my one of Super-Man incredible punches. I suspect even the film's trailer will fail to depict Batman accurately. I still need to read this. Yeah, I'm not expecting much from this movie. I don't even know how they will handle it. It's just a guess on my part from what seems like the smartest move; however, it can still work given the right balance and again granted that balance can be hard to do which is why I'm not holding out much hope but you know it's not an entirely zero possibility that it will be good. As far as Batman being physically helpful to Superman as he could be mentally. The GA is just going to have to suck it. ... or maybe not. Superman & Batman: Public Enemy is when Lex framed Superman and Batman: Superman distracted the enemy while Batman used the distraction to take down the real enemy (The man controlling the whole shabang aka Lex Luthor/Evil Iron Man as my non-DC comic friend called him). You're thinking of the events that happened in Superman & Batman: Supergirl. And about that Superman looking superior to Batman and the crowd being disillusioned ... I don't think it'll be a problem. It's been more then 70 years and people for the longest time have always sided with Batman and we (people) have a way of rationalizing things. I think however they portray Batman, things will be just fine.
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Post by jer on May 17, 2014 21:17:40 GMT -6
Also Jurassic Park used a good mixture of CGI and Animatronics. More to the point, I don't care about the actual ratio. I just wanted to throw in my two cents
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Post by wyokid on May 17, 2014 21:32:33 GMT -6
Still my favorite panel ever.
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Post by Sage6Paths on May 17, 2014 21:56:50 GMT -6
If I remember it correctly the original film didn't have too much Godzilla either. I heard the humans are typical monster movie humans, this true? I think the last time I watched the original Godzilla movie was when I was like 7 or 8 year old. That was a while back so I can't remember. The humans were fine but even if they took them out of the movie, it would have worked just fine as well. So yah typical monster movie humans.
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Post by Sage6Paths on May 17, 2014 22:14:55 GMT -6
This guys. Just this.
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Post by Agemoi on May 17, 2014 22:29:38 GMT -6
I'm excited too, but I've unfortunately stopped expecting anything to be "good." I still stand that the ASM2 had the best Spider-Man/Peter Parker content with excellent character interactions, and fantastic spidey sequences. But the narrative is so broken, and the tone completely uneven. Its heartbreaking to see a film fall apart in the editing room, because in every scene you can just tell everyone is giving it their all and loves it. Hopefully they tighten up in the future. Dennis Leary looked annoyed that he was brought in. Thats his thing though haha hes supposed to be annoyed I'm excited too, but I've unfortunately stopped expecting anything to be "good." I still stand that the ASM2 had the best Spider-Man/Peter Parker content with excellent character interactions, and fantastic spidey sequences. But the narrative is so broken, and the tone completely uneven. Its heartbreaking to see a film fall apart in the editing room, because in every scene you can just tell everyone is giving it their all and loves it. Hopefully they tighten up in the future. I gotta disagree. which part? lol I give credit where credits due, and i do dig it a lot for sure. But i cant overlook its issues either.
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Post by thecrimson on May 18, 2014 0:31:23 GMT -6
Dennis Leary looked annoyed that he was brought in. Thats his thing though haha hes supposed to be annoyed which part? lol I give credit where credits due, and i do dig it a lot for sure. But i cant overlook its issues either. I never noticed any issues.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 18, 2014 12:38:59 GMT -6
Some minor details on The Raid 3!! (Completely spoiler free) The Raid 2 Director: How to shoot a fight scene.
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Post by wyokid on May 18, 2014 13:02:34 GMT -6
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 18, 2014 13:17:04 GMT -6
Yeah, it was revealed last year that the Director had plans for one. He said he wanted to involve other monsters if he was to be approached to do a sequel, and liked the idea of the old black and white movies where Godzilla would fight all these giant beasts, beating them in a battle royale. This is what the Director said last July.
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Post by wyokid on May 18, 2014 13:20:20 GMT -6
This is them officially announcing a sequel.
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Post by Mr_Monster_Munch on May 18, 2014 13:23:19 GMT -6
This is them officially announcing a sequel. I know.
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